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One Single Pattern by juolac

Round 50
Author juolac
Title One Single Pattern
MP3 Link http://www.loopproject.com/filebase/sdcompo/juolac/sdc50_one_single_pattern.mp3
Module Link sdc50_juolac-sdc50_One_Single_Pattern.xrns
Filesize 6956KB
Score 5, 5, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 3, 3, 3Total Points: 44 (11 Votes)
1st Place Vote5 Points2nd Place Vote4 Points3rd Place Vote3 Points4th Place Vote2 Points5th Place Vote1 point

Authors' Notes

Hey all!

Celebrating round 50 with One single pattern.
You tell me what genre/style this is because I don't know for sure myself.

Tried out a new method in Renoise:
Made only one single pattern, sequenced it in pattern matrix.
A quite interesting method that made it easy to remix it as you listen live!
Note the Filter Control tracks that affects "Knorr"-baseline and the "Chord" track. This gives you the impression of it has more than one pattern.

This is my version. there might be track-combinations that sounds good but i didn't use. :)

Remix it as you like! :)

Comments

Comment by organic_io on 2010-07-12 01:23:20

Wow!!! I just got back in town and listening to the mp3 of this right now. Fantastic! I don't know anything about new versions of Renoise or pattern matrix but this is really impressive that you were able to accomplish all this variation with a single pattern. Not only that, but it is a really nice song too. Mixing sounds fantastic, bassline is awesome squelching, love the sine lead, love the drums compression. Vocals are a bit silly :)

Consider me very impressed. I'll be voting this round if only to make sure to vote for this :)

Comment by JustinCredible on 2010-07-13 08:06:48

Heyo,

nicely done - a more "in depth" comment will follow later, as soon as i have enough time.

But - how is that mute automation done? With a pattern command?
With the pattern matrix?

Please tell me :D I did not find a hint while observing your xrns after a first look :)

Later

justin

Comment by andyray on 2010-07-13 16:13:14

This is what it's about!
Using your tool in a most creative way...

I second I/O up there... (but I don't think the vocals are silly! maybe the lyrics but not the vocals... ;-* )

this is top 3 for sure...

Later

//Andy

Comment by organic_io on 2010-07-13 21:47:54

Andy, I mostly meant the lyrics, not the singing itself. Very very cool song.

Comment by andyray on 2010-07-14 04:34:14

I/O: yes I know.. I just couldn't help myself.. he ;)

Comment by juolac on 2010-07-14 16:41:45

Hey'all! Thanx for commenting!

First things first: I'm NOT a fan of rapping, in fact I doubt that it should be called music at all.
Just to make a fool of my self I did it anyway, with some stereotypes and cliches the genre deserves :)...
I get an awkward feeling when listening to this and have promised myself to never play this to anyone outside SDC, haha.
That's why it's silly.
But seriously; admit that you've heard even lousier rapping in commercially released "music" before ;)

@ justin: Just check the pattern matrix and there you see how it's sequenced.
To mute a track for one sequence, click on the selected block(track) in the matrix and then press the Return key, there; the block will be marked with an X = muted for that sequence.
/J

Comment by organic_io on 2010-07-15 02:58:48

Juolac, I did a little reading on the pattern matrix and loaded up your song in Renoise. It looks extremely useful. This is something trackers have never had before, and makes the workflow more similar to Fruity loops or cubase, if you want it to be. It seems like it could be a great time-saving tool -- Would you say it was pretty quick to put this together, compared to how long it would have taken you if you had sequenced it all individually on different patterns?

This is great, really. It gives you more time to focus on songwriting and mixing, rather than copying and pasting. :)

Comment by JustinCredible on 2010-07-15 11:54:45

Heya,

i am also extremely grateful for that "POWER" you gave us, with revealing that cool trick.
I don't know how yet, but i think this will be very helpful in the future...

Apart from that the song itself is surely very nice, too.
I liked that lyrics they were kind of entertaining.

But what i loved most was the "Knorr" track at pattern .. 0 ... lol... ok at 01:03 minutes, were it is kind of in the foreground.
I like that kind of acid driven, filter-effected stuff alot :)

All in all the song is imho very nice and surely one of my favourites this round :)

All the best

Justin



Comment by organic_io on 2010-07-15 13:06:40

The only thing I realized about this technique that would NOT be time efficient is the way you did the vocals. I didn't look at it when I listened in Renoise, but you had to either splice your vocal track up into about 20 different parts, or find the sample offset for each matrix-entry in the sequencer. Either way, that seems like a lot of wasted time as opposed to just having it all play down one track. Before I loaded it in Renoise, I actually thought you just played the song in Renoise, recorded the vocals live over it and then mixed it back into the track. That's what I would have done anyway :)

Comment by Knetter on 2010-07-15 14:56:12

Nice stuff man! Love the filtering trancey chords coming up slowly. Your rap makes it really interesting...Oh man that singing is excellent!!! Reminds me a bit of Junior Boys.
Only I prefer the first beat over the 1-2-3-4 beat. The latter makes it too "easy" or so....?
Great production!

Comment by juolac on 2010-07-15 15:54:37

organic_io, I say it was much quicker workflow and easier to mix this way, thus I could submit long before deadline, for once! :)
Only one pattern is to put this method in extreme but was made to show the useability of it.
I'd say that you need less than 10 patterns in most productions... At least for intrumental tunes ;o)
I'm such a bad singer so I need to retake and record small blocks anyway so this method suited me, but I think that you could record singing your preferred way anyhow if you use a few more patterns, One pattern for refrain, one or two patterns for song/talk/rap, one or two patterns without song but unmuted tracks so the whole sample can be played in full length even if other instrumental tracks are mute/unmuted in sequences :)


JustinCredible, I'm happy to help and share tips n trix.
This community has helped me so much to get better so it was my turn to bring some fresh bread and butter to the table :)

Knetter, Thanks man! nice that it's enjoyable as a song regardles technique/method in mind.

I hope you also noticed my other tip for workflow; the "FC-tracks" that are normal tracks but I used them as a kind of send-tracks.
These tracks contains only velocity values. The DSP "Velocity device" in the FC-tracks controls the filter DSP:s in selected tracks with notes in it.
This way you can play your single track in repeat and try low cutof, raising, high and falling cutoff, just by muting/unmuting the FC-tracks in realtime.

I just got an idea and stuck to it; Should work to use One Single Pattern and repeat it but mute/unmute parts in the sequencer.

Consider this the Renoise O.S.P method, or "ROSP-tune". :D

Peace
/J

Comment by organic_io on 2010-07-15 17:04:48

Juolac:
"One or two patterns without song but unmuted tracks so the whole sample can be played in full length even if other instrumental tracks are mute/unmuted in sequences :)"

!!?!? Help me understand how this works... The matrix editor can co-exist with the old playlist editor? You can mix and match them? Or are you talking about like, say, triggering the vocals on pattern 0 which is at the top of the matrix editor, so they stay on, and then using the matrix editor below that for patterns 1,2,3, etc, to actually mute and unmute stuff?

I should just go mess with it to see how it works instead of asking this question, but I probably won't have time and I'm certainly intrigued :)

Comment by juolac on 2010-07-15 17:36:47

Okay I/O, lets see if I can describe this with my limited english :)
Example:
Pattern 1: Contains a track with a long song sample, vocal1 (before refrain) length lets say 8 patterns long in time.
Pattern 2: Contains a track with a long song sample, vocal2 (to be used after refrain). 8 patterns long.
Pattern 3: Contains a ltrack with a long song sample, refrain, 2 or 4 patterns long sample length.
Pattern 0: Contains no sample trigged, this is the pattern you use to play around with muting/unmuting instrument tracks and effect tracks

Those patterns could then be sequenced this way:
0: intro (build up from many muted tracks)
0: intro
1: song part 1 triggered.
0: song tracks always unmuted to let the sample play its full length, but play around with instrument tracks muted/unmuted.
0: as 0 above
0: as 0 above
0: as 0 above
0: as 0 above
0: as 0 above (the vocal sample is finished in this sequence)
3: refrain vocals triggered.
0: let the refrain play (but you are free to "mute-sequence" instruments and drums.
0: freak out with crazy lead instruments (by "mute-sequencing")
0: "mute-sequence" freely
2: trigger the sample for song part 2...
0: song tracks always unmuted to let the sample play its full length, but play around with instrument tracks muted/unmuted.
0: as 0 above.
etc until refrain and ending...
This example needs 3 different tracks for song.

But if you are a pro singer who wants to record the lyrics in one take you should only need 2 different patterns,
Ptn "1" for triggering the sample, Ptn "0" for intro, ending and letting vocal sample play through while you "mute-sequence" drums and instruments like a bezerk!

:)

/J

Comment by Airmann on 2010-07-15 18:30:30

Hey Joachim :),

very nice song. What I like most is your velocity device controlled knorr acid line. It sounds awesome (BTW: why no hydra and standard automation ?)
The whole thing about the "one pattern" remix is a very creative and funny. Think it's generally a good way
to create quick releases and drafts. Thanks for demonstrating this so nicely and you win the innovation award this round ;-).

Ok back to content: what I also really love in your tune is the rythm section. Very fluent and effective beats / overall groove.
love the first (!) kick drum groove pattern and the usage of the toms. Also love the trancey parts (I always like your trance :)

The clarinets give the whole song a demostyle feeling. Not 100% my cup of tea. I'd rather seen/heard something else more trancey instead,
but that's just a matter of taste.

Mix is indeed pretty nice ... funny, like me you almost didn't use any compressor. Improvement: do some low cutting.

Definitely top 3

Comment by chunter on 2010-07-16 17:34:21

Believe it or not, I've used "one pattern, many melodies" technique before, for low-memory compos in IT - it's not too hard to follow once you're used to it, and I think it's lovely that Renoise can do it now too. Good tune.

Comment by Marko on 2010-07-19 06:30:28

I can just say: Wow. Lead, drum, talk, and even singing match together so well.

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