If Only It Were You by tenfour
|Title||If Only It Were You|
|Score||5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 4, 3, 1||Total Points: 32 (8 Votes)|
|1st Place Vote||5 Points||2nd Place Vote||4 Points||3rd Place Vote||3 Points||4th Place Vote||2 Points||5th Place Vote||1 point|
Comment by organic_io on 2012-06-21 11:22:59
Really nice one here (as if we could expect anything else from you) :)
It's a really solid track, but as you said I can tell you cut some corners here to get it done.
First, the good: Really solid song structure, chord progression, melodies.... All really funky and it has a great vibe. I love the leads... as some of your stuff does sometimes it reminds me a bit of Stevie Wonder. It feels a bit like it's lacking in fullness, like a vocal could give it what it needs. Or a couple pads here and there... Maybe? Maybe not a full vocal, but just like a couple lines interspersed here and there between sections before the next lead comes in.
What could be improved: The drums. I think you know this. Primarily sticking out at me is the snare tone, just sounds weak and nasal, like you're hearing only the snares underneath it, but not the actual resonance of the drum. Should be an easy fix. Then also it could use more drum variations & fills. But like I said, I think you know this and my guess is this was the biggest corner that was cut in this song's production.
Overall, a really solid song with some really enjoyable melodies, which I should probably spend some time studying :)
Comment by organic_io on 2012-06-21 11:31:28
Also, I forgot to mention it sounds like there is some clipping at places.
Comment by hexmode on 2012-06-22 15:19:13
What a really great jazz vibe.
Amazing melodies, as someone who finds myself "melodically-challenged" i have no clue how you'd go about composing something as complex as this. Totally jazzy and funky and impressive. muchos kudos.
Love the breaks with the ride cymbal and the floaty sound effect. and the shaker that's panned left. I think the laid back drums work well, disagree with oio, in that i find they have plenty of crashes and little fills to keep them cooking. I see them as a supplement to the melodies and too much on the drums would distract I think.
Perhaps a downside would be the sound quality in a couple of places, the short stabs of the jazzy piano sounded a bit loud in my headphones and distract my attention. same with the snare. i say this only as a listener though, wouldn't really know how to technically comment on it :)
Comment by Sonicade on 2012-06-22 20:20:52
Ooo so groovy! Love that electronic piano. This has a great summer vibe! Seems like the hat, ride and kick could come through a little more. Maybe a little more fillout with the accompanying synths and epiano in the lower range EQ to give it more punch? Otherwise this is totally chill groovy jazz goodness. Really like the reverb work especially, gives it a really cool sound. Always amazing tracks by you Tenfour, this one does not disappoint! :)
Comment by chunter on 2012-06-23 20:00:55
Sounds like it could turn into a Steely Dan track... I think I said that last time.
Though the drums sound a little anachronistic to me, they stay out of the way of the fat electric piano... I'm not sure what to suggest as far as that goes. Another good track!
Comment by tenfour on 2012-06-24 14:03:56
Erykah Badu was a source of inspiration for this. I wanted to make a more minimal arrangement, where melodies and groove carry the tune rather than brute force notes and fills. I also wanted to have such a synergy between bass & kick drum; for that I am happy. The kick drum sound especially. Also some engineering techniques I stole from her producer - for example longer attacks on compression so the compression doesn't kill the clicks & punchy attacks of the percussion. I don't think there is any clipping though. The snare indeed basically sucks; I just never got a chance to sit and refine it. But I am happy with the general fills and patterns.
I never wanted to add any more pads, but I would have added more synth effects - something done so well by so many people this round. In this department I am a complete dunce - like that picture of a dog in a laboratory "I Have No Idea What I Am Doing".
@Chunter: What do you mean by "anachronistic"?
Thanks for all the nice comments!
Comment by Chotoro on 2012-06-25 13:43:01
I think this is just great. My ears interpret the snare as a loud sidestick, so it kinda works, but could be quieter. As long as it doesn't steal the show from the piano and lead it's good. I'm reminded of some of the background tunes for Transport Tycoon.
Comment by Airmann on 2012-06-25 18:28:50
Actually I'm not a big fan of the loungy jazzy style, but I admit your overall skillz a lot. Sounds super natural and organic. Wow ! Moreover I have to say that this is just good music. You would never know that it comes from a tracker. Great !